Former President Barack Obama revealed that his wife Michelle told him to spend more time with Bruce Springsteen to reflect on his ...
Former President Barack Obama revealed that his wife Michelle told him to spend more time with Bruce Springsteen to reflect on his 'failings and flaws.'
Obama said during a CBS interview on Monday that as he was getting to know singer-songwriter Bruce Springsteen, his wife said to him, 'you need to spend more time with Bruce.'
'I said, "Well, why is that?''' Obama recounted.
'She says, "You know, he understands all his failings and flaws as a man, and you don't seem to understand as well just exactly how messed up you are."'
Obama said he replied: 'You're right. No doubt.'
Michelle and Barack Obama met in 1989 while working at a law firm in Chicago and married three years later.
Michelle opened up about her marriage to the 44th president in a September 2020 episode of The Michelle Obama Podcast.
'There were times that I wanted to push Barack out of the window. And I say that because it’s like, you’ve got to know the feelings will be intense,' she said. 'But that doesn’t mean you quit. And these periods can last a long time. They can last years.'
Barack Obama reveals why his wife told him to spend more time with Bruce Springsteen: 'She says, "You know, he understands all his failings and flaws as a man, and you don't seem to understand as well just exactly how messed up you are,"'
Michelle opened up about her marriage to the 44th president in a September 2020 episode of The Michelle Obama Podcast. 'There were times that I wanted to push Barack out of the window. And I say that because it’s like, you’ve got to know the feelings will be intense,' she said
Springsteen and Obama have paired up now to produce a podcast and forthcoming book, 'Renegades: Born in the USA.'
The rocker and the former president reflected on how they both see themselves as outsiders. Springsteen warned that many people will be left feeling disaffected by technological and social changes and Obama said that change is happening 'too fast' for many in the US.
'And Donald Trump was, you know, he had the cynicism and the carny ability to play on that part of our weakness, you know? I think we're going to be in a lot of trouble if you can't find a way to engage a lot of people who feel disaffected. Whether it's by technological change, whether it's by the post-industrialization,' Springsteen said.
'Bruce is right,' Obama said. 'You end up having, on the one hand, change happening very rapidly, too rapidly for a big portion of the population. For another portion of the population, it's like, 'You know, how long are we gonna keep having to defer this dream?'"
Springsteen and Obama have paired up now to produce a podcast and forthcoming book, 'Renegades: Born in the USA'
'And I think that part of what we tried to do in the podcast was get everybody to feel a little more willing to recognize, you know, our own faults.'
Springsteen peddled the idea of 'critical patriotism,' which he said was a theme of his 1984 hit 'Born in the USA,' about a Vietnam veteran who returns home to dismal circumstances and little opportunity.
"I had 'Born in the USA.,' which — a song I wrote. And that was misinterpreted on a variety of different levels because it basically put forth the idea that you can love and feel a part of the same country that you can be deeply critical of, and feel has disappointed you on a variety of different levels."
'Renegades: Born in the USA,' the book of dialogue by Springsteen and Obama, will be released on Tuesday.
The musician told CBS he hopes to be back on the road in the coming year and wants to keep making new music.
'I'm gonna make a better record and play better tour, play better shows. So that's always there for me,' he said.
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